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part of the problem is that i have asked romney and ryan repeatedly. i asked ryan on this show last sunday not -- i don't agree with you it is a $5 trillion tax cut but i said where do you make up the $5 trillion for are lowering tax rates in terms of the deductions and loopholes, how do you make it up? they reduce to tell us. independent experts say even if you took away all of the deductions it is not going to add up to $5 trillion. >> the governor said he understands he has to work with both sides of the aisle. we know right now for example in the house dave camp is working on the issue of lowering, simplifying, and even in the senate they had discussions. he said in the debate i will work with members of both sides of the aisle. looking at a simpson bowles type model. this is not new and we know that it can be done. if you go back to when it was last done of simplifying the tax code. >> simpson boles were more specific about yes, lowering the rates. >> he said he is going to work across the aisle. he is going to listen to both sides of the aisle an
part of the problem is that i have asked romney and ryan repeatedly. i asked ryan on this show last sunday not -- i don't agree with you it is a $5 trillion tax cut but i said where do you make up the $5 trillion for are lowering tax rates in terms of the deductions and loopholes, how do you make it up? they reduce to tell us. independent experts say even if you took away all of the deductions it is not going to add up to $5 trillion. >> the governor said he understands he has to work...
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president obama goes after romney and ryan in the way the democrats go after the gop when it comes to entitlements, but as we know, last summer, president obama was happy to make serious changes to medicare in exchange for getting a grand bargain. if he is reelected, he will go back to the table and i am sure the same questions will be on the table again. he has said he is open to making those changes. >> let me explain the difference between what obama would do with a $716 billion, and what romney and ryan would do. obama takes the money out of medicare and reduces the payments to doctors and hospitals which obviously reduces services. one sixth of all hospitals will have to shut down or refuse the elderly. he takes the money, and the 716 he saves, and places it into a new entitlement called obamacare, which will fund the uninsured. good cause but it takes from a and gives to b. what ryan does, in the original plan, he takes the same amount, and put it back into the medicare trust fund way to invest in the future. medicare is a way to see that we are going to cut a little now and the
president obama goes after romney and ryan in the way the democrats go after the gop when it comes to entitlements, but as we know, last summer, president obama was happy to make serious changes to medicare in exchange for getting a grand bargain. if he is reelected, he will go back to the table and i am sure the same questions will be on the table again. he has said he is open to making those changes. >> let me explain the difference between what obama would do with a $716 billion, and...
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romney and paul ryan are on the campaign trail in swing states. we have a live picture from ohio where paul ryan is taking the stage. mitt romney' foreign policy speech is making waves. >> mitt romney shifted his focus today to foreign policy. >> policies have not been able to the best examples of world leadership. nowhere is this more evident than in the middle east. >> the romney campaign is trying to reverse the tide on this issue after some of his recent perceived missteps including his initial response to the attack on the consulate in libya. used today's speech to keep up his criticism of the obama administration. he had a bit of a swagger. he is riding a wave of momentum from last week's debate. the poll taken after the denver showdown has the race tied among registered voters. president obama had a five-point advantage three days leading into the debate. voters overwhelmingly said ann romney won the debate. that is the biggest debate when ever recorded by gallup bigger than bill clinton's over george bush. president obama is expected to ra
romney and paul ryan are on the campaign trail in swing states. we have a live picture from ohio where paul ryan is taking the stage. mitt romney' foreign policy speech is making waves. >> mitt romney shifted his focus today to foreign policy. >> policies have not been able to the best examples of world leadership. nowhere is this more evident than in the middle east. >> the romney campaign is trying to reverse the tide on this issue after some of his recent perceived missteps...
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and, romney-ryan on the move. bill: the way mike murphy explains it, republican strategist on "meet the press" sunday morning, democrats could be desperate. do you agree with that? >> they're certainly very worried. the degree of concern they had over the president's performance in denver is much deeper than we even thought. they're very, very worried about that. they're looking for joe biden to come out and deliver a lot of zingers and attack lines that barack obama didn't. this is the second chance in the presidential debate. there is not another actual presidential debate until october 16th. bill: listen how paul ryan explains how he sees vice president joe biden. >> he is fast on the cuff. he is a witty guy. he knows who he is and been doing this for 40 years. so, you're not going to rattle joe biden. joe biden has been on the national stage. he ran for president twice as sitting vice president. bill: probably a smart strategy. what he is saying there, be careful and do not underestimate the vice president, de
and, romney-ryan on the move. bill: the way mike murphy explains it, republican strategist on "meet the press" sunday morning, democrats could be desperate. do you agree with that? >> they're certainly very worried. the degree of concern they had over the president's performance in denver is much deeper than we even thought. they're very, very worried about that. they're looking for joe biden to come out and deliver a lot of zingers and attack lines that barack obama didn't....
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asked mitt romney about are even better for ryan. it was paul ryan who was confronted with chris wallace asking him about the math of the budget plan, was the one who said i just don't have time to get into that. joe biden can say, i'd like to give you all the time you need, take all the time you need, congressman ryan, and tell us which deductions you two are going to close. he can confront him on the $716 billion that he also likewise cuts from medicare. >> identical number. >> identical number. that's a wonderful thing to be teed up for vice president biden, and he can also just come at him on the issue of entitlements generally. paul ryan is somebody who apparently saved the survivor benefits that he got from social security, used them to go to a good college, and now has been a long-time advocate of privatizing social security. >> i just wish joe biden would at some point ask the question, why do you right wingers think the way to get rich people to work harder is to give them more money and the way to get poor people to work ha
asked mitt romney about are even better for ryan. it was paul ryan who was confronted with chris wallace asking him about the math of the budget plan, was the one who said i just don't have time to get into that. joe biden can say, i'd like to give you all the time you need, take all the time you need, congressman ryan, and tell us which deductions you two are going to close. he can confront him on the $716 billion that he also likewise cuts from medicare. >> identical number. >>...
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it's joe biden's responsibility to stop the momentum of the romney/ryan campaign. if ron is able to beat biden, make better arguments on policy, then wow, that's two in a row, and there's more pressure on the president in the next debate. >> okay. about a month to go, little less than a month now. i think we've hit on some of the topics, but what needs to happen, talking about the presidential candidates again, what does the president need to do, what does mitt romney need to do? >> i think number one, they have to be aggressive. their campaigns are playing offense. mitt romney will talk about the economy a lot. he's going to give a foreign policy speech today. overall, it's about the economy. it's making the argument of who can better the economy, because it's ailing. they both agree the economy is ailing. who can fix it and make the arguments better? >> quick answer, does it hurt the president to be in hollywood when, or in california when it doesn't matter as much as virginia does now? or is it okay? >> i think he's got to raise money. but i do think it hurts hi
it's joe biden's responsibility to stop the momentum of the romney/ryan campaign. if ron is able to beat biden, make better arguments on policy, then wow, that's two in a row, and there's more pressure on the president in the next debate. >> okay. about a month to go, little less than a month now. i think we've hit on some of the topics, but what needs to happen, talking about the presidential candidates again, what does the president need to do, what does mitt romney need to do? >>...
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>> i expect ryan to come out like mitt romney, a raging bull. but i expect biden not to play barack obama. i watched biden. i think he'll counterpunch and do it effectively and i think if he does, he wins. chris: any thoughts? >> there will be a lot of worries. this will be very interactive and a great debate. i'll wait before i see it. >> no fair. >> she reserves the right. >> i'm going to call it a draw. i think joe biden is pretty good in debates. and paul ryan is very smart. i think he's going to have a great night. i think they're going to meet -- chris: one thing about the media i'm not a media critic, but i think we say gaffe and in his case i think we are gaffes and used the wrong word and could have said the middle class is being squeezed instead of buried and no comment about it but if somebody says something in the back room and i don't give a damn about half the country, that's not a gaffe but a revelation. >> biden by the way knows this debate is a really big deal. chris: yeah. >> biden has to keep it together. but if he does, he ha
>> i expect ryan to come out like mitt romney, a raging bull. but i expect biden not to play barack obama. i watched biden. i think he'll counterpunch and do it effectively and i think if he does, he wins. chris: any thoughts? >> there will be a lot of worries. this will be very interactive and a great debate. i'll wait before i see it. >> no fair. >> she reserves the right. >> i'm going to call it a draw. i think joe biden is pretty good in debates. and paul ryan...
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is that a danger for paul ryan? >> i think the -- the team, romney team is smart enough, they understand his strengths or weaknesses if there are any, but he's a book worm and knows the numbers, but at the same time so much attention as we know has been paid to biden's gaffes and the middle class, and raise taxes and we can't underestimate the fact that he's very strong and can relate to the people and resonate with the audience there and he will be able to engage in a good debate, but i believe that ryan knows that he's a book worm and he's smart, but also understands he has to be strong, but personable in that debalt and that's exactly what romney did, too, he was factual, but personable and i think that's the way that ryan will approach this debate. >> mike: i'll give you 30 seconds, that's all the time we have. i'd give you more if i had it. michael, if you thought there's one big issue we'll he see out of this vice-presidential debate that could be the important issue, the pick the issue, pick the candidate and
is that a danger for paul ryan? >> i think the -- the team, romney team is smart enough, they understand his strengths or weaknesses if there are any, but he's a book worm and knows the numbers, but at the same time so much attention as we know has been paid to biden's gaffes and the middle class, and raise taxes and we can't underestimate the fact that he's very strong and can relate to the people and resonate with the audience there and he will be able to engage in a good debate, but i...
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/ryan budget. you're looking at billions of dollars and less in investments in the states. about $4.5 billion less a year in ohio and in virginia alone. they're going to have to go out to constituents and explain why they're raising taxes or cutting benefits. huge implications for state and local budgets based on what's decided this year. and that's often what really hits the kitchen table more. >> i see you voted today. >> i did vote in virginia today. >> who did you vote for? that's the question. >> for president obama and for governor kaye. >> i'll take a more apolitical attack. bud selig and the powers that be in major league baseball. we had the debut of the one-game wild card playoff. baseball added an extra wild card this year. the very first game, the braves versus the cardinals, ended up being decided by a blown umpire's call in the eighth inning. and fans were throwing garbage on the field and it was a lousy error-ridden game to begin with. bud selig, this is a sign from the baseball gods
/ryan budget. you're looking at billions of dollars and less in investments in the states. about $4.5 billion less a year in ohio and in virginia alone. they're going to have to go out to constituents and explain why they're raising taxes or cutting benefits. huge implications for state and local budgets based on what's decided this year. and that's often what really hits the kitchen table more. >> i see you voted today. >> i did vote in virginia today. >> who did you vote...
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debate, though, doesn't walk away from the very record and platform that have so been a part of the romney-ryan campaign. >> so the pressure on both candidates after last week's debate, however, what many saw as president obama's lackluster performance. the vice president, joe biden, really feeling the heat now. at least that's how the folks at "snl" see it. >> is there anything more exciting than joe biden thinking it's up to him to get the lead back? it's tivo time. >> and this reminder, can you watch the vice presidential debate right here on cnn. joe biden and paul ryan go at it thursday. our coverage beginning at 7:00 eastern. here's what we're working on for this hour. >> more people have come down with a dangerous form of meningitis all because of contaminated steroid shots. it turns out the fda does not regulate the company that supplied the drug and many others like it. we'll explain why. >>> a congressional report warns two chinese telecommunications companies operating in the u.s. pose a threat to national security. >>> and adair devil sky diver is getting ready to break world record
debate, though, doesn't walk away from the very record and platform that have so been a part of the romney-ryan campaign. >> so the pressure on both candidates after last week's debate, however, what many saw as president obama's lackluster performance. the vice president, joe biden, really feeling the heat now. at least that's how the folks at "snl" see it. >> is there anything more exciting than joe biden thinking it's up to him to get the lead back? it's tivo time....
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making a few accusations against governor romney. it is really kind of, well, let me be candid, unsettling. coming up here tomorrow, governor romney erasing the president's leaves in the polls. he has a lead himself. can congressman ryan deliver an encore performance against joe biden? probably not until he has his first debate. veteran campaign strategist, former reagan adviser, former fdic chair joins us. by the way, some very interesting views on wall street and a guy by the name of timothy geithner, treasury secretary, you know. we are coming right back. ♪ lou: well, a new gallup poll confirms governor romney scored an historic victory in last week's presidential debate, an overwhelming 72 percent of registered voters giving governor romney the when compared with only 20% to believe president obama to be the winner. the 52-point margin of victory is the biggest ever recorded by gallup. you know president obama is an even more trouble when a publication like the new yorker is bashing his debate performance. the newest cover, the
making a few accusations against governor romney. it is really kind of, well, let me be candid, unsettling. coming up here tomorrow, governor romney erasing the president's leaves in the polls. he has a lead himself. can congressman ryan deliver an encore performance against joe biden? probably not until he has his first debate. veteran campaign strategist, former reagan adviser, former fdic chair joins us. by the way, some very interesting views on wall street and a guy by the name of timothy...
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and mitt romney's budget plans. for seniors that single group joe biden can reach no one else on the ticket can reach. when it comes to the voters, i think joe biden has the opportunity to cut through the wonkery which both presidential candidates immersed themselves in. he can cut through and say this is what it means for real older people. yes, if you're 55, pay attention. this is coming to you. >> joe biden has to separate out the view of the skeptical e lkt rat and say you're attacking paul ryan because he's your opponent. or are you attacking ideas because they were bad ideas long before it became perhaps politically advantage wous to attack them. alex, you talked about the heartlessness of the ryan budget months before he became a household name. >> i was there first. >> that's different for someone watching who says, this is the same old washington thing. they want to defeat thim. that's the challenge for biden. long before anyone heard of paul ryan we were afraid of paul ryan because we were afraid of what h
and mitt romney's budget plans. for seniors that single group joe biden can reach no one else on the ticket can reach. when it comes to the voters, i think joe biden has the opportunity to cut through the wonkery which both presidential candidates immersed themselves in. he can cut through and say this is what it means for real older people. yes, if you're 55, pay attention. this is coming to you. >> joe biden has to separate out the view of the skeptical e lkt rat and say you're...
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we're joined by diane black, a romney supporter who works with paul ryan in the house. >>> also, the man behind the 2012 video, speaking to oprah. talking about his naked meltdown on the street and the pressures of viral fame. >>> plus, the country's obesity problem now. a matter of national security? we'll speak to the army recruit who shed 160 pounds to get into the army. >>> first, towers of strength. amazing pictures of people banding together to build human castles. inspiration. great power. iconic design. exhilarating performance. [ race announcer ] audi once again has created le mans history! [ male announcer ] and once in a great while... all of the above. take your seat in the incomparable audi a8. the highest-ranked vehicle appeal among large premium cars by j.d. power and associates. ♪ by j.d. power and associates. the wheels of progress. seems they haven't been moving much lately. but things are starting to turn around because of business people like you. and regions is here to help. with the experience and service to keep things rolling. from business loans to cash man
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who is the running mate of mitt romney. we had that big vice presidental debate that is happening on thursday. how much of an issue do you think the vice presidental debate might be in the state of eye yeah iowa where we are seeing that likely voters may respond to paul ryan. >> paul ryan was popular in iowa. both paul ryan and joe biden were personally popular. when we asked people who was the more of an asset to the campaign it was very clear that paul ryan was seen as more of an asset to the romney campaign and joe biden was to the obama campaign. i think the people are watching this vice presidental debate in part to see how well the sort of second in command stand up against each other. but i also think that people kind of watch these debates a little bit like a nascar sport, they want to see who is going to go into the wall, and i think, you know, avoiding gaffes is going to be very, very important for the candidates. jenna: it is like a sporting event in many ways. kathy, it's really nice to have you back with us. we
who is the running mate of mitt romney. we had that big vice presidental debate that is happening on thursday. how much of an issue do you think the vice presidental debate might be in the state of eye yeah iowa where we are seeing that likely voters may respond to paul ryan. >> paul ryan was popular in iowa. both paul ryan and joe biden were personally popular. when we asked people who was the more of an asset to the campaign it was very clear that paul ryan was seen as more of an asset...
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only romney and ryan can provide that. host: when the president took office we were losing 800,000 jobs a month. since the president took office, we have 5.5 million additional jobs. truck about the automobile recovering, he saved the automobile industry and 1/88 jobs in the state are reflective of the auto industry. i worked the railroad 41 years. the guys and women working there, they're happy, jumping up and down because they have employment. one out of eight jobs are connected to the auto industry. not only that, the government at the time, strickland, and the president came to and youngstown, my area, and it one of the last steel companies in the area was given a $20 million stimulus amount that created a tremendous amount of jobs, particularly 1 mile from my area, it in an area of youngstown that's really struggling. so you see this incredible turnaround. he was hit with those 800,000 jobs per month. he created the 5.5 million. just recently are finding out the unemployment level was finally dropped below 8%. that is
only romney and ryan can provide that. host: when the president took office we were losing 800,000 jobs a month. since the president took office, we have 5.5 million additional jobs. truck about the automobile recovering, he saved the automobile industry and 1/88 jobs in the state are reflective of the auto industry. i worked the railroad 41 years. the guys and women working there, they're happy, jumping up and down because they have employment. one out of eight jobs are connected to the auto...
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to see is whether joe biden is able to turn to paul ryan in that way and say, your math doesn't add up. give me one specific deduction. in some ways i think with joe biden and paul ryan it's going to be an even more damaging conversation if ryan has to obviscate and come up with specifics because he's the numbers guy. >> he's going to be prepared. we'll be prepared. >> he doesn't have enough time it to answer the question, but going back to the theme of the day, what matters, the economy always matters. ever since the cold war it's been about the economy with the possible exception of '04, right? we're in the war of terrorism. >> even in '04 the exit polls showed that even though it was a foreign policy election, it was still about the economy. >> it's always about the economy. foreign policy is at best second or third most important. once again this foreign policy forray into mitt romney it may be a couple days lost. he's not talking about the economy on an area where i think it's impossible to catch up to barack obama. >> i do take the point that he needs to give a speech like thi
to see is whether joe biden is able to turn to paul ryan in that way and say, your math doesn't add up. give me one specific deduction. in some ways i think with joe biden and paul ryan it's going to be an even more damaging conversation if ryan has to obviscate and come up with specifics because he's the numbers guy. >> he's going to be prepared. we'll be prepared. >> he doesn't have enough time it to answer the question, but going back to the theme of the day, what matters, the...
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the report is ryan launched in romney's five-point plan but "he again did not get in the loopholes the plan would close or eductions they would eliminate to get to the 20% tax cut, his ticket promised." obama campaign pounced. ryan can't attend his own campaign rally without being called out for failing to provide specifics about what romney would do if elected. morrisson did not ask about the tax loopholes and was shocked to learn the obama administration seized on her question. she went home, she later wrote, satisfied with the exchange with ryan. "i was not calling ryan out. i had an opportunity to ask a direct question to ryan and what i got was a complete direct answer with no spin." she now wants specific on president obama economic plan. romney aid accusing cnn of taking the governor comments out of middle east out of context. cnn put words in today's romney speech on foreign policy where he pledges to recommit the u.s. to democratic prosperous palestinian debate. juxtapose against clip where they say palestinians have no interest in peace. they say they left out the, i where ro
the report is ryan launched in romney's five-point plan but "he again did not get in the loopholes the plan would close or eductions they would eliminate to get to the 20% tax cut, his ticket promised." obama campaign pounced. ryan can't attend his own campaign rally without being called out for failing to provide specifics about what romney would do if elected. morrisson did not ask about the tax loopholes and was shocked to learn the obama administration seized on her question. she...
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/ryan budget when it hits the ground, he's going to lose. he's just not going to be able to carry enough independent voters. as i said on top of the auto rescue, we have people that have actually felt the obama policies help them. right down the supply chain in the auto industry here, you can go to places like the logistics company, the trucking company, the seat manufacturer, all the way down the line have benefited and they know, i was out at the plant gate the other day, they know it was obama sticking his neck out in 2009 to make sure that gm didn't go bankrupt and the autos didn't go bankrupt. >> i will be curious -- >> romney was on the wrong side of that. >> curious to see how the polling does when there is a good -- right? we're too close to the debate, we didn't have the good post-debate polls in the state of ohio yet to really flush that out. >> any swing state poll after the debate, except in colorado, which still shows obama with a four-point be edge there? >> in ohio we were in the field before the debate and i was in cincinnati
/ryan budget when it hits the ground, he's going to lose. he's just not going to be able to carry enough independent voters. as i said on top of the auto rescue, we have people that have actually felt the obama policies help them. right down the supply chain in the auto industry here, you can go to places like the logistics company, the trucking company, the seat manufacturer, all the way down the line have benefited and they know, i was out at the plant gate the other day, they know it was...
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now, they're as a for mitt romney. there's -- people showing up to be for mitt romney and to be against the president. >> well, that's hugely helpful if it lasts. there was a little bit of that when he picked paul ryan. then went away. a little bit of that right after the debate. two more presidential and one vice presidential debate. >> okay. we'll talk about the debate after the break but first we asked you, our trivia question, the first vice president to not become president, the answer, should have gotten this. of course, aaron burr. the nation's third vice president under thomas jefferson and of course remembered for the guy that killed the treasury secretary in the duel. e-mail us for the trivia question. we'll be right back. safe driver, multi-car, paid in full -- a most fulsome bounty indeed, lord jamie. thou cometh and we thy saveth! what are you doing? we doth offer so many discounts, we have some to spare. oh, you have any of those homeowners' discounts? here we go. thank you. he took my shield, my lady. th
now, they're as a for mitt romney. there's -- people showing up to be for mitt romney and to be against the president. >> well, that's hugely helpful if it lasts. there was a little bit of that when he picked paul ryan. then went away. a little bit of that right after the debate. two more presidential and one vice presidential debate. >> okay. we'll talk about the debate after the break but first we asked you, our trivia question, the first vice president to not become president,...
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. >> reporter: vice president biden will have a chance to clarify his words when he debates paul ryan. as for the next presidential debate -- >> i think you'll see a very engaged president that is ready and willing to call out whichever mitt romney shows up. >> reporter: and the president's advisors promise the real obama will show up as well. melanie alnwick, fox 5 news. >>> with more insight and a look ahead on what we can expect on the political front this week, is fox 5's political analyst, mark plotkin. did his performance make a difference? >> chris christie before the event said mitt romney was going to turn the campaign upside down. in all honesty, i think he did. he revitalized a campaign in some ways his staff was writing off the candidate, and the best data is the impercale data in some of the background states, i heard one today in florida, he's running even and narrowing the lead -- >> he's campaigning in florida now, right? >> he is. he drew a big crowd. >> the biggest of his campaign so >> he haven't drawn crowds anywhere near that. crowds are indicative of your support
. >> reporter: vice president biden will have a chance to clarify his words when he debates paul ryan. as for the next presidential debate -- >> i think you'll see a very engaged president that is ready and willing to call out whichever mitt romney shows up. >> reporter: and the president's advisors promise the real obama will show up as well. melanie alnwick, fox 5 news. >>> with more insight and a look ahead on what we can expect on the political front this week, is...
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and the whole obama campaign now against romney and ryan is that the numbers on the republican side don't add up. so i think there's going to be pressure on ryan to explain the numbers or at least the obama folks are going to try and pressure ryan to explain the numbers. so these things usually don't matter. it's the undercard. but this time i think there could be a little more importance. >> i think you're exactly right. biden's actually a very good debater. he was very good during the democratic debates in '08. he beat barack obama every time. he is good in the debates, but boy, he can't afford to have an off night, can he? >> no. >> i mean, you talk about feeding into a narrative. i actually think paul ryan can break even and he'll be fine, but joe biden can't have an off night. >> joe, imagine the panic -- imagine the panic on the democratic side if biden does have one of those gaffes and, you know, the one night -- the denver sort of story becomes a week-long story. it would be horrific for democrats. >> yeah, it would. >> i don't understand why we're even raising this issue. >> why
and the whole obama campaign now against romney and ryan is that the numbers on the republican side don't add up. so i think there's going to be pressure on ryan to explain the numbers or at least the obama folks are going to try and pressure ryan to explain the numbers. so these things usually don't matter. it's the undercard. but this time i think there could be a little more importance. >> i think you're exactly right. biden's actually a very good debater. he was very good during the...
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. >> steve: is calling mitt romney and ryan a good strategy. here to weigh in is washington insider amelia and democrat pollster marjorie. good morning to both of you. >> margey. it does sound like according to the new york times, 10 minutes before the end of the debate they were on a conference call talking about he stunk up the place. we'll have to go full steam ahead on a new attack and that is going to be romney is a liar. >> any time you hear mitt romney express different position than the day before it is for voters to know. we would be talking about mitt romney's loose interpretation of the facts regardless of what the people thought of the pet's performance. his own campaign walked back what romney said about covering people with preexisting conditions in the healthcare plan. >> marjorie wasn't the president lying when he repeatedly said mitt romney would raise taxes five trillion dollars. it will not be near five trillion wasn't that a lie. >> no it is not a lie because romney will not talk about the loop holes. he refuses to walk thro
. >> steve: is calling mitt romney and ryan a good strategy. here to weigh in is washington insider amelia and democrat pollster marjorie. good morning to both of you. >> margey. it does sound like according to the new york times, 10 minutes before the end of the debate they were on a conference call talking about he stunk up the place. we'll have to go full steam ahead on a new attack and that is going to be romney is a liar. >> any time you hear mitt romney express different...